Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual abuse and other traumatic experiences.

In this conversation, Jamie and Jonah (therapist, Jamie’s mentor) sit down with Robert Falconer—therapist, author, and one of the world’s most respected practitioners working with unattached burdens… or in more familiar terms, real‑world spirit possession. Robert brings decades of study, clinical experience, and cross‑cultural research to a topic most people only encounter through horror films. Except here, it’s not fiction. It’s lived reality.

Robert walks us through what possession looks like from clinical, scientific, historic, cultural, and spiritual angles—while also sharing the surprising moments of humor, hope, and even encounters with benign spirits that shape his work. This isn’t a story of fear; it’s a story of healing, release, and the resilience of the human psyche.

After the session, Jamie and her mentor Jonah sit down to digest what just happened, what it means, and why Robert remains Jamie’s greatest role model in the field.

Horror fans: this is the real stuff—the kind of material movies wish they could be made from.