On this episode of That Wellness Podcast with Natalie Deering, Bob discusses the controversy surrounding UBs, and the clinical outline he writes about in his new book The Others Within Us: Internal Family Systems, Porous Mind, and Spirit Possession, in which he talks about unattached burdens in other cultures and traditions worldwide.

We discuss the ten years of work that went into his book, the history of unattached burdens within his career, case studies that impacted his understanding of UB’s, and the seven steps he teaches on how to address UB’s within someone’s system. 

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